Friday, February 13, 2009

Ahhh...the octuplet quandary...

"She already has six beautiful children, why would she do this?"



[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMB7qJcxGO8 ]

Anybody who has watched the news in the past couple of weeks has heard of her, the 33year old Californian woman that already had six children (one of which is autistic) under the age of eight who gave birth to octuplets on January 26th.

Well, recently "the octuplet mom" has revealed herself as Nadya Suleman. Not only has she revealed herself, but, also her eight newest children (http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com).

She lives with her parents in their three bedroom home: a three bedroom house that is soon to be home to fourteen children. In the video, Angela Suleman, Nadya's mother, speaks out and let's her opinion on her daughters fourteen children be known.

The questions we leave you with are: What is your opinion of Nadya Suleman after watching the video? Do you think she was right in having all six embryos implanted, just to try to have one more child? What do you have to say about the living conditions she puts her children in?


Kaitlyn says: To me, I don't think people are looking down on her decision just because she's a single mom. I think they're looking down on her decision simply because it was selfish. She's not going to be able to support 14 kids. By the sounds of it, she didn't even have a handle on six. I agree with Angela -- she could have given those embryos up, and the doctors shouldn't have went through with the procedure! Besides, I also don't really see the big difference between having six kids and having seven. Six makes a big family as it is. The living conditions that are available to Nadya Suleman and her children are not sufficient enough to suit fourteen (fifteen if you count her). A three bedroom house that is already crowded? I don't think so.


Christine says: After having 6 kids, I think she should have quit having kids. Even her own mother doesn't believe she is capable of taking care of all 14 kids by herself. Her house isn't equipped to raise all of her children. I believe she has mental problems.

40 comments:

  1. I've much much MUCH to say in absolute loathing and disgust towards this vile excuse of a woman (I know, harsh words coming from your teacher here...).

    My primary beef with the woman, aside from the evident I'm-having-children-for-attention-and-the-government-will-provide-for-me greed she's displaying:

    1. She's had extensive plastic surgery on her face -- rhinoplasty and collagen injections, to name a couple of things she's had done -- an estimated price range of 30 grand. Doctors who were interviewed on a news show yesterday debated on whether or not it had been water retention/swelling from the pregnancy or cosmetic surgery. The plastic surgeons were quick to point out that her nose would certainly not have been affected by her pregnancy -- the cartilage had been narrowed by the scalpel for pete's sake.

    2. She's devious in that no matter how much everyone loathes her, she'll use it to her advantage. She's perfectly aware that there's no such thing as "bad" publicity. Some moronic network will grant her a reality show at some point, and her publicist (yes, PUBLICIST--she, indeed, has one) will gladly have her do it.

    Never mind the book option.

    3. She's perfectly aware we are in the midst of a recession...and yet she'll do what she can to have taxpayers her support her immoral behavior.

    I hope the state removes her children from her custody. I realize that sounds horrid on my part, but this woman should be put in an asylum and locked up for good.

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  3. I think it is absolutely ridiculous for her to have had more children when she couldnt even care for the six she had! I have very strong opinions about motherhood, and I think it is one of the most honorable things a woman can do, but that woman should also have the stability and responsibility to care for the children she brought into the world. I think that once a woman brings a child into this world that child should be their priority above everything, and they should be willing to make incredible sacrifices for their children, By bringing more children into the world without being able to independently support the ones she had is SELFISH AND STUPID!

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  4. My opinion of Nadya Suleman after watching the video is that is a self loathing, manipulative, and the worst self fish person I ever encounter in my life.

    Oh please who's trying to impersonate, Angelina? or some Hollywood star that went overboard in children so they can tax deducted to the federal and state government.

    About the surguries how in world did she get that money? $30,000 dollars are not easy to get. where does she get it, the bank maybe? or part of the medicaid benefits? or maybe as part of cash assistance.

    For the sake of argument she is living at her parents home how cruel can be that if she doesn't help with the expenses of her children.

    It was wrong to do the implant procedure, the doctor that did the procedure should known better the history of Mrs. Suleman (if I could call her Mrs because she really isn't) in the sense of the history of previous children if he knew better he would not perform the procedure but we are greedy and mostly this kinds of people do have a price on their heads.

    Am worry about those 14 children in the kinds of conditions that they are living right now, I just hope and pray that the State finds cause for negligence care in the part of the mother and lock her up in a state prison or better yet that the federal government step in and put her in a federal prison (no house arrest or mental asylum) federal or state prison and the custody be with the grandparents but I can't ask much they are old and need space too so probably part with them and the rest with members of the family if available.

    I left you this: How does she pays her publicist? My guess out of the interviews or maybe out of the benefits. What do you think?

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  5. Alex, if her publicist earns a commission, I've no idea. Some sort of media-venue must be providing the dastardly duo (Ms. Suleman and her publicist) extra $$, I'm certain.

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  6. I'm sorry...I stand corrected:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090214/ap_on_re_us/octuplets_3

    AGENT, not publicist.

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  7. My opinion of Nadya is that she was a little selfish when she had the embryos planted, i mean she already had more than enough children to take care of. I do not think she was right when she had the 6 embryos planted. The living conditions she puts her children in is rediculous to me. Right now she can get away with something like that but when the children start to get older the conditions are just going to get worse because there will be less and less room as time goes on.

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  8. My name is Brittney and Im from the MWF 9:00 class.

    Being as this woman is already a single mother to six children I dont think she made a very responsible decision by planning such a big pregnancy. It's simply not fair to all of these children because there is no possible way she can take adequete care of all of her children now? Part of me has to wonder if she did it to get all the freebies? This lady has no idea what it feels like to not be pregnant! She has been pregnant for like eight years in a row.

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  9. This is Brittani Earp from Mrs. Jennings MWF 9:00 class. I have a huge opinion about this woman, but I'm going to keep it short. She already had 6 kids ages 2-7, lived with her parents, and was single, why would she get implanted with 6 more embryos? I am all for a big family, but only if you can support them all. She obviouly could not or should wouldn't be living with her parents. She should of never got implanted with those embryos. Not it backfired and two of those embryos became twins, so now she has 8 newborns. I DO NOT believe in abortion, but she never should of gotten implanted. Now she is wanting money from the government to help support her babies. Why should we help to pay to support her babies when she is the stupid one that had that many? I think that these babies need to be helped because the fact is they're babies and they didn't ask for it, but it shouldn't be at her gain.

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  10. This woman is screwed up!
    Why in the world would she do that? Is she seriously that desperate??
    The first time i heard it on the news i was just thinking she had 8 kids--woah! like a john and kate plus eight kind of deal--then i found out she already has six kids!!That are still like in elementary!! Oh my goodness! How can she even support them? And on top of that she lives with her parents!--and can barely support the ones she has!

    She definately needs to give some kids up for adoption, OR NOT HAVE CUSTODY. My aunt had problems with having kids--she has one and he has cystic fibrosis(however you spell it) and she was trying to have another kid..well she wasnt able to have one "the normal way" because of some problems, so she had an in vitro three times and only had two embryos each time she did it. ($25,ooo.oo each time)--where did that woman get this money to do that?-- sadly the in vitro didnt work..and she quit trying. But there are many woman out there that cant have children..so its absolutely not right..and stupid!!..for her to have all 14 kids! What a psycho!!! ahh!

    Kyndra Travis- Enc 1102 Mon.Wed.Fri class.

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  11. Brittney Jarrell-MWF 9AM COMP2

    I don't care who you are, there is no way anyone can take care of 14 kids by themselves. Not to meantion, if you live with your parents in a 3 bedroom house and already have 6 kids which is deffiantely not even enough room for them. Why would you want more? Yes, children are a blessing, but you should be able to take care of them fully and tend to all of their needs. She won't be able to.

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  12. Kyndra Travis- Enc 1102 Mon.Wed.Fri. 9:00 Class

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  13. I am disgusted not only by this woman's lack of forethought in how she would handle a larger househould when her mother did most of it already, and then to find out she'll 14 total? I fear for the childhood lives these children are going to have. I don't see a way that even with her mother's help, these children can be raised properly... Who gets what amounts of attention? How much time can you spare the rest when one of your children already has special needs? What if more children develop special needs?
    I think she gives not only single mothers, but women in general a bad image.

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  14. She is obviously looking for attention...

    I think her kids should be put up for adoption so they can go to a loving home. One that will not exploit them for fame or fortune.

    And as for the mom... she and the doctor who did all these implants should be in jail for CHILD ENDANGERMENT.

    point blank...do not pass go and do not collect $200.

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  15. Maritza Miranda. MWF 9AM class. After I watched the interview Nadya had with the reporter from MSNBC. My opinion is,this lady has some scrwes loose. No money,no husband,six children and eight more is like she WON the LOTTERY. She said;I'm not selfish,I can take care of my fourteen children,I don't need financial aid from the goverment,I will go back to school,take loans from the school and go back to work,ect. How she will be able to do all this.She is not in the state of mind, and she needs Psychological Treatments.

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  16. it is obvious to me that this lady has a mental problem. She needs to get help from a real doctor and not the crazy man that keeps implanting kids into her uterus. there is no way this can be leagal, why is she allowed to have all these kids with no way to support them? DCF law says that you can not have more than 3 kids per bedroom so why are they allowing these kids to live in such horrid surcomstances? everyone puts imfacis on the mother but what about how the kids have to grow up going to school getting picked on,wearing hand me downs, and not being a ble to participate in extra things like football games,getting a car at 16, going on field trips, and just being kids. She needs to be put in a home the kids need to be moved to liveable homes and try to live normal lives.

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  17. I believe the lady should have stopped having kids if she really can't support them herself. It probally isn't too healthy to have that many people living in one house like that. It would be different if she had alot of money, bigger house and was raising the kids in a healthy, not greedy enviornment. If she gets all that, then good for her and I hope she's happy with all those kids!
    -Allison Kahler

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  18. It is my instinct to say that this lady is crazy. It sounds like she shouldn't have any kids, so obviously fourteen is over the top. I think a lot of people have kids when they shouldn't but this lady goes on the poster. Even if she could afford to have all those kids, how could she possibly give all of them the attention children need to have a stable and healthy childhood.

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  19. If you have IVF they implant many embryo's with the hope that maybe one or two will stick, so I get that she maybe thought she might only have one or two from this procedure, but if she was successful the last time she was implanted, then what in the world would make her think any differently the second time around?!
    Not only does plastic surgery come in at a whopping 30,000, but IVF in itself is in the general vicinity of 75,000 dollars. Where is this "woman" getting her cash from?? No bank I know would give out that kind of loan.
    It is completely irresponsible to enter into that venture if you've already taken on the task of caring for 6 children. And have you seen the layout of this house? Bunk beds and cribs in one room, cribs in another that is shared with a large bed for the older children and Nayda herself.
    She is absolutely cashing in on her situation, I believe I read somewhere that she was asking for 1 million to give her first interview?
    The whole situation makes me nauseous.
    -Ashley TR 11:00

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  20. I think she was wrong to have her embryos implanted. "another kid" NO!she already has six and living with her mom,and she's 33. She's puting her family at a big financial risk.

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  21. I don't think that having that many kids and being a single mom is the best idea for her. I do not object to her having that many children,but only if she has a good means to supporting all of them. Right now it doesn't seem that she is financialy set to do this though.
    -Michael Kahler

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  22. I understand why this woman had all six eggs implanted because many times they don't take, but she knew that there was a possibility that they coould and so she should have planned for that. If this woman does not have a home with at least eight bedrooms and a well paying job to support her and her fourteen children then she should not have taken the actions she did. It's wrong of her to put her children in living conditions that will not support their well being and also, she is very wrong for living off of her parents the way she is... they had and raised her, it's not their responsibilty to take care of her and her fourteen kids for the rest of their lives. She is being selfish and very inconsiderate. She should be ashamed of herself and go get a job and her own place.

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  23. Im Natasha from T/R 11:00.
    Why would this woman ever want to have 14 children. Seriously if she couldnt handle 6 kids what made her think she should have more when she lives under her parents roof. A mother is suppose to want better for her children. This woman has her kids living in a 3 bedroom home. I thinks she needed to seriously think before she acted.

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  24. If someone wants to have fourteen children, that is their descision, provivded the kids are well cared for and have a decent place to live. but living with her parents and having that many people in that small of a space isn't healthy. So having 14 children-under these circumstances- is, in my opinion, completely INSANE.

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  25. She has six other kids, but yet she say she wanted more. Why would you want more kids when you don't take care of the ones you have now yourself and stay with your parents that stay in a three bedroom house. The house is not big enough to hold that many people and they are kids. Maybe it will go a different way if she had a bigger house, took care of them herself, and if she did not use an unnatural way to get her childern.
    Castor B.

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  26. I forgot to sign my last post, Its under my name, Chelsie Sphaler and I go to the Tuesday Thursday Class 11:00 A.M.

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  27. I feel that this a example of the love of a mother? I’m sure Nadua Suleman is a strong women inside and out. Already having six children and having more to worry about , she already knows what she is going to face. There are people that can’t have children at all.The living conditions are going to questionable. There is only one way to really find out and that is time. She can right a book and become rich and then use the money for the family.

    Samuel Louis

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  28. This woman just tried to make a public scandal so she will get all the attention, which probally earns her alot of money just by doing presses on her issues. Besides the fact that she's demanding for government tax deduction because of the fourteen children, I found no other reasons for her to be more selfish and greedy. She lives in California and maybe gets some effects from the celebrities' lives, who want to have scandals and public attentions. What's the point of having alot of children when she's still dependent on her parents and is not able to support for herself?

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  29. Karli Cribb MWF 9am

    If this woman was a real mother she would have gotten a job to help provide for HER 6 kids instead of spending more money to have more.

    Her actions lead me to the conclusion that she is a lazy, self-loathing sloth who needs to grow up and be a parent instead of trying to be a trailer park trash version of Angelina Jolie.

    The government will intervine, but this most likely lead to a law suit somehow. Unfortunately, she will receive even more glorification and magazine covers.

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  30. I think this woman is psychotic and selfish beyond all explanation. She apparently wants attention and I highly doubt that any of her children will recieve the love and support that children need or deserve from their mother. It disgusts me to think that a woman who exploits her children is able to keep them and all while her fellow Americans pay her for it. I also think that the Dr. responsible for the implantation should lose his license. It also breaks my heart to see these children raised by such a manipulative woman. Where will we go from here if she is not held accountable for her poor decisions? I just hope for the sake of these children that they are raised in a home full of love, support, and encouragment, preferably by someone other than Nadya.

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  31. In my opinion i think she's crazy... she already had six kids and doesn't have a husband to help support them, she's relying on the publicity stunts to help provide for them...well eventually it's gonna become old news and then how is she gonna get enough money to help provide for food, clothing, housing, and college?!?

    Yeah it's understandable that she wants to be a mom and have kids...but from 6 to 14 kids is a big leap! And their all squished in 1 house that has only 3 bedrooms that's insane! and having to feed them in shifts...this place is more like a VERY crowded daycare than a home...

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  32. LIke all of you, I do beleive that having that many children at one time is outrageous. this woman is menipulating the system by sucking tax payers money out of the government for care of her children. I think that the children should be put up for adoption so that they can all have a fair chance at life with a family that really wants to have children and that will probably do a lot better of a job at taking care of them. I dont know how she thinks that she can take care of that many kids in a tenament cage of a house like that. There also should be regulations at the clinic for how many embryos that you can have at once. I think that the government is so screwed up that they aloud this to happen.

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  33. Taking care of six children actually is hard, a 33-year-old unemployed single mother, Nadya Suleman is breaking the mold of the “normal family” in more ways than one and deciding to have fourteen. I think she is out of her mind. This is just another example of people expecting to be bailed out of messes and situations created by their own greed and selfish motivation. I believe she wanted to become famous and she is now. But, the question is, how she going to take care of all these children? Even she can find some financial aid. Anyway, she should just do whatever is best for all her kids and always put them first instead of the spotlight and money that they could possibly make for her.

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  34. You do realize, everyone, that no matter what, the children WILL be helped.

    I think there's a strange case of Munchausen's going around right now -- lots of mamas in the media using their children to get attention and in the most heinous ways.

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  36. Has anyone seen any of the interview with the "sperm donor" where he wants to be apart of the kids lives and help with them and he was "emotional" and "tearing"... he just wants a piece of the change that crazy lady is going to get.

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  37. Missed that one, Summer. I just saw another interview with her--she never seems to have a straightforward answer to any of the questions she's asked.

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  38. She has a straight forward answer because her "advisors" probably had a list of approved question sthat could be asked in a interview with rehearsed answers.

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  39. Amanda Bridges T/R 11am class

    Ok like Kyndra's story there are sooo many women out there that can't have children and here is this woman with 14 for no reason. And yes, maybe she loves and cares about them but she can barely take care of them. It's just ridiculous to have that many children. Honestly, I think she did this just for the attention.

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  40. In my opinion that was a very irreversible mistake on her part. I could she if she had a huge home, a great career, and a SPOUSE; maybe then it wouldn't be so bad. I am pretty sure if she was supposed to have another child it would of came whenever the time was right. How will she be able to care for 14 children? She displays the typical behavior of a WELFARE QUEEN, if you ask me. Single, lazy, not willing to work, no income, and they typically have several children that she can not take care of. Does it not sound familiar? People such as herself make you not want to pay your taxes, because it is not like they are going to a good cause. Seems to me like they are going direct deposit (Yes, SSI & Cash Assistance can get direct deposited) into Mrs Suelman's account for her to spend on her "children" wisely.

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